Re: [IETF] Travel/Attendees list FAQ

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2011, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:31 AM, David Morris wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 8 Dec 2011, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> > 
> >> On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Actually, I meant wiki according to its classic, collaborative meaning:
> >>> 
> >>>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki>
> >>> 
> >>> What you folks are describing is a web page, not really a wiki.
> >> 
> >> Exactly, and that is appropriate for something whose primary target is 
> >> organizations that are giving large amounts of money and time to the 
> >> IETF. A "collaborative page" can easily go sideways with contributors 
> >> who don't understand the parameters of what is meant to be there. In 
> >> many cases such as WGs, such sideways motion is fine; for a page whose 
> >> audience are often people who don't know about the IETF but are tasked 
> >> with deciding whether or not to give us significant financial support.
> > 
> > Perhaps, but in a wiki context repair is easy as any reasonable wiki
> > software will provide a history.  
> 
> What is the greater additional value of having to have someone who 
> watches the wiki and reverts changes over that same person being listed 
> on the static page as "if you have questions or suggestions about this 
> page, please send mail to <real human's name>"?

Difference is whether the community is better served by a fail open or
fail closed approach. I don't believe active watching is required. I think
the value of informed contributions without waiting for the real human
to review and provide the update. Even active review is less henious in
terms of work load in a context where we expect updates, even errors,
to be contributed with best intentions.

A Hybrid is another possiblity ... a 'fact' page with limited edit
could be the parent of the community edited content. Certainly not
an expensive experiment?

> 
> > In addition, at least one proposal
> > was that editing be limited to some form of registered users which
> > should also mean that abuse can be mitigated.
> 
> 
> Please note that I wasn't talking about abuse, I was talking about 
> misunderstanding. The latter seems very likely in our crowd, given our 
> propensity to mistake implementations for requirements, for example.



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