On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > >> Actually, I meant wiki according to its classic, collaborative meaning: >> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki> >> >> What you folks are describing is a web page, not really a wiki. > > Exactly, and that is appropriate for something whose primary target is organizations that are giving large amounts of money and time to the IETF. A "collaborative page" can easily go sideways with contributors who don't understand the parameters of what is meant to be there. Yes, and who have very little incentive to add stuff -- for example, look at the WG Chairs wiki ( http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/wgchairs/ )-- the subtitle is: "Everything a WG Chair Needs to Know but Was Afraid to Ask" . This site is far from useful[0], and hasn't been kept up to date (mnot made some changes ~ 6months ago, 22months ago Marc changed some email addresses, 2 years ago Tony changed a URL or two, most of the content is 5 years old). It is *far* from "everything a WG Chair needs to Know" -- something like this aimed at the event folk / organizers at a sponsor is not going to reflect well on the IETF and is not going to help lead to a successful meeting. If we ended up with the opposite problem (everyone editing), things would be much much worse -- anyone reading this would assume that we are a bunch of childish, blithering idiots -- go read some previous Attendees lists and sample random threads (the "Hilton clock" thread: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/80attendees/current/msg00271.html , the "CD is a chocolate?" thread, the infamous Maastricht train threads) -- these are the sorts of things that folk might add the the Wiki -- it this really the image we want to be projecting? Wiki's are a great idea, *for some things*, but (IMO) this is not one of them. W [0]: Yes, I *know* it's a wiki and I can / should go edit it myself, but, well.... > In many cases such as WGs, such sideways motion is fine; for a page whose audience are often people who don't know about the IETF but are tasked with deciding whether or not to give us significant financial support. > > --Paul Hoffman > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf