Hi, I don't have an opinion regarding the number of f2f meetings. But, as we've discussed before, I think we could make more out of the summer meetings (considering any e-mail etc activities taking place before and after them) by moving them away from the main summer vacation period. So, no meetings in july and august. Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre [stpeter@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:38 PM To: John C Klensin Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Requirement to go to meetings On 10/25/11 3:48 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > > > --On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:19 -0700 Fred Baker > <fred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Ping Pan wrote: >> >>> the original issue remains: please make IETF meetings easier >>> and cheaper for us to go to. ;-) >> >> I think that a lot of people would like that. There are a >> number of problems that need to be solved to make them cheaper >> to attend. >> >> One is the issue of air fare and hotel cost; these have been >> brought up before. 25 years ago, all meetings were in the US, >> as were most of the participants. People came from Europe and >> Australia at significantly greater cost, but for the average >> attendee, putting all meetings in the US reduced meeting cost. >> It's now 25 years later, and that logic doesn't remotely start >> to work. >> ... > > Ok, Fred, let me enter one suggestion into this discussion that > would actually cut total costs, recognize and take advantage of > the observation that an increasing number of WGs are holding > virtual interim meetings, and reduce pressures on meeting time > conflicts and trying to get everything done in 4 3/4 days. > > Eliminate one of the face to face meetings entirely -- go to two > a year and either hold the 4 3/4 day schedule or, better cut it > back to four. Reducing the number of meetings a year from three to two makes sense. Naturally, we'd need to work through the implications (e.g., the NomCom schedule is defined in terms of three meetings a year). Plus, it's a natural complement to having reduced the number of maturity levels from three to two. ;-) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf