>>>>> "sm" == sm <sm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: sm> If you do not go to meetings, it's unlikely that you will be able to follow sm> the BoF you are interested in. There may be times when decisions are taken sm> during a meeting. It is not worth the nit-picking if the outcome won't sm> change. If you are claiming that remote participation for BOFs is more challenging, then I *strongly* agree. Much of the problem is not technical, but administrative (agendas and materials being incomplete), and also proceedural (many many more cross-microphone discussions, etc.) The biggest challenge is however that we are seeing a massive increase in "Bar-BOFs"... it's one thing if 5 people get together to figure out a problem statement, it's another when it's announced... -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf