Nothing happens without deadlines. I'd be more in favor of going back to 4 meetings a year than going to 2... Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/25/11 3:48 PM, John C Klensin wrote: >> >> >> --On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:19 -0700 Fred Baker >> <fred@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Ping Pan wrote: >>> >>>> the original issue remains: please make IETF meetings easier >>>> and cheaper for us to go to. ;-) >>> >>> I think that a lot of people would like that. There are a >>> number of problems that need to be solved to make them cheaper >>> to attend. >>> >>> One is the issue of air fare and hotel cost; these have been >>> brought up before. 25 years ago, all meetings were in the US, >>> as were most of the participants. People came from Europe and >>> Australia at significantly greater cost, but for the average >>> attendee, putting all meetings in the US reduced meeting cost. >>> It's now 25 years later, and that logic doesn't remotely start >>> to work. >>> ... >> >> Ok, Fred, let me enter one suggestion into this discussion that >> would actually cut total costs, recognize and take advantage of >> the observation that an increasing number of WGs are holding >> virtual interim meetings, and reduce pressures on meeting time >> conflicts and trying to get everything done in 4 3/4 days. >> >> Eliminate one of the face to face meetings entirely -- go to two >> a year and either hold the 4 3/4 day schedule or, better cut it >> back to four. > > Reducing the number of meetings a year from three to two makes sense. > Naturally, we'd need to work through the implications (e.g., the NomCom > schedule is defined in terms of three meetings a year). > > Plus, it's a natural complement to having reduced the number of maturity > levels from three to two. ;-) > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf