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I’ve been watching this discussion across several attendee lists, plenaries, etc and it appears that we have a routing loop. Perhaps it’s time for those who seem most concerned about this to author a BCP draft regarding IETF meeting venue and hotel selection policies that addresses
this, so that IAOC has a bit clearer instructions and a documented policy based on community consensus, rather than this discussion continuing to come up every couple of meetings, and the general response from the IAOC being “this is hard, we’re doing the
best we can… [example, explanation]” Not to say that I doubt the intentions or efforts of any of the IAOC folks past or present, but the theme I keep seeing in these discussions is a request for
both transparency and price sensitivity, and I’m not sure that the feedback is being acknowledged so much as it is being treated as a request for explanation of the extenuating circumstances.
It may also be advisable for the IAOC to start asking a few questions (via survey, for example): 1)
What (if any) guidelines do(es) you(r company) follow for allowable hotel costs? 2)
Would you prefer to subsidize the cost of the meeting venue with the cost of the hotel room, or via higher registration fees (or evenly split)? 3)
Would you prefer the meetings to center on a few locations and negotiate an extremely good deal for repeat attendance (e.g. OFC/NFOEC, etc).
a.
Indefinitely rotate between the same 3 locations?
b.
Rotate on a 2 year basis (6 different locations)
c.
Rotate on a 3 year basis (9 different locations)
d.
Option a, but pick new venues every 2 or 3 years
e.
Status quo (venues completely variable) Additional questions about air travel and mass transit (the other perennial travel topics) might also be a good idea. Do it every year, or every 2 years or
after every meeting when the previous meeting (good and bad) is still fresh in everyone’s mind. Thanks Wes George From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Keith Moore $300/night is far too high a ceiling for a guest room rate. A more reasonable ceiling would be in the ballpark of $150. On Aug 24, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote:
The points are that the IAOC is not going to select a poor venue because it may have a This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. |
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