I agree. Unfortunate comparison of two cities. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, John C Klensin wrote: > > > --On Sunday, August 29, 2010 15:59 -0700 Ole Jacobsen > <ole@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > John, > > > > I agree 100% with everything you said here, execpt for the > > part about "we don't get it". I don't think I need to go over > > again why Maastricht was chosen nor elaborate further on the > > surprises we encountered onsite, so let's just say that we > > will try to do better next time and move on. > > I am really uninterested in discussing the Maastricht situation > further except insofar as I think there are lessons in it that > have not been absorbed yet. > > I would feel much more confident about who does and does not > "get it" were it not for Ray's little survey equating Maastricht > and Minneapolis. If that difference (fairly significant > international airport with good connections from several others, > easy and fairly quick transport from airport to hotel, in-hotel > meeting in hotel large enough to accommodate most of us, several > other hotels within easy walking distance, a large variety of > nearby eating places, ... versus "none of the above") wasn't > painfully clear long before the survey was sent out, then > _someone_ doesn't get it. > > john > > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf