--On Sunday, August 29, 2010 15:59 -0700 Ole Jacobsen <ole@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > John, > > I agree 100% with everything you said here, execpt for the > part about "we don't get it". I don't think I need to go over > again why Maastricht was chosen nor elaborate further on the > surprises we encountered onsite, so let's just say that we > will try to do better next time and move on. I am really uninterested in discussing the Maastricht situation further except insofar as I think there are lessons in it that have not been absorbed yet. I would feel much more confident about who does and does not "get it" were it not for Ray's little survey equating Maastricht and Minneapolis. If that difference (fairly significant international airport with good connections from several others, easy and fairly quick transport from airport to hotel, in-hotel meeting in hotel large enough to accommodate most of us, several other hotels within easy walking distance, a large variety of nearby eating places, ... versus "none of the above") wasn't painfully clear long before the survey was sent out, then _someone_ doesn't get it. john _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf