Moin, On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 15:11 -0400, John Levine wrote: > since I don't know what you mean by a "standard" FTP client. "standard end-user", i.e., an FTP client that would be recommended by, e.g., a web-hoster to its not necessarily technical users/customers to use when trying to transfer files. For example, what Contabo (German hoster) does here: https://contabo.com/blog/top-5-ftp-clients-for-windows-and-mac/ All of these five (FileZilla, WinSCP, Cyberdock, Transmit, CuteFTP) actually also support SFTP. So, if you want to make your Windows do FTP, you automatically also install an SFTP client. > None of the linux distros I know of come with an interactive FTP > client any more. Most of them include wget or curl, and there are > plenty of other FTP clients in packages. Yes, and OpenBSD comes with sftp in base. However, this goes straight beyond the point I was talking about; It was exactly not about people running some form of UNIX or Linux; It was about those users, that are usually core of the argument "but X is so difficult, and my Windows/Mac tools do not support it"; With the point being: The things most likely installed in those cases to make it support FTP also support SFTP out-of-the-box. > So in general although I think the question was poorly phrased, I > agree with the idea that if you want to use sftp, it is very easy to > do so. Yes. > But I think scp is even easier. Certainly; If you are comfortable using a cli. Which tends to become more of an ancient arcane art these days than i'd like to admit. Or, to put it into words once uttered towards me: "Are you CHATTING with your computer?!" With best regards, Tobias
