Thanks Toerless > On 5 Jul 2024, at 02:06, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 06:38:04PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote: >>>> 'When the meeting space is co-located with the IETF hotel, >>>> the combination tends to build a strong sense of community >>>> among those participants and staff who stay there. That >>>> sense is diminished when the hotel and conference facilities >>>> are separated.' > > Nitpicking on the working just because i think this is a really > important point. > > I would suggest to tone this down to "stronger" instead of "strong". > Even when the Hotel itself was hosting the IETF, i've seen the communal > benefits to participants vary widely on setup of the hotels of bar, restaurant > etc. pp. The full phrase is "tends to build a strong" which I think captures the variability vs the underlying trend. > > For example, admittedly the Hilton in SF is IMHO a lot better in its setup > than the one in Prague in this respect, even though i am not a fan of going to > SF (too expensive for what it's worth - seemingly the owner of the Hilton > had to figure out the very same thing ;-)). > > Ultimately i guess that the best communal effect is had if/when we do > have the largest possible best-affordable IETF block in the conference > hotel. Aka: Even a great conference hotel doesn't help if the mayority > of young, energetic - and likely underpaid - IETF participants have to go to > a different hotel. Even if just because the drinks are too expensive in the > Hotel. > > So yeah. A bit of a conundrum, which alas has gotten worse with rising > prices in most places. Thanks for the analysis. I don’t think this document needs to get into that level of detail. cheers Jay > > Cheers > Toerless > >>>> That isn't very good either, but at least the point is more >>>> obvious. >>> >>> These are two separate points that appear at two different places >>> in the text. In their context they make sense. >> >> Ok, as long as you believe that people will read the whole text >> rather than skimming or skipping around in some way that would lead >> to confusion (I think probably a reasonable assumption in this case). >> thanks. >> john >> >> -- >> last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director exec-director@xxxxxxxx -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx
