[Last-Call] Re: Genart last call review of draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-02

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--On Thursday, July 4, 2024 22:35 +0100 Jay Daley
<exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> John
> 
>> On 4 Jul 2024, at 22:30, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --On Thursday, July 4, 2024 13:34 +0100 Jay Daley
>> <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...
>>>> Does this really need to be mentioned as a disadvantage of
>>>> meeting spaces not co-located with a hotel, normally a
>>>> convention centers? Is this something that really resulted as
>>>> rough consensus from the discussions? What is 'a core group'?
>>>> Are there other groups that feel differently or do not care?
>>> 
>>> Yes, those two points are better written as 
>>> 
>>> * For those IETF participants (and staff) that normally stay in
>>> the IETF hotel, there is a strong sense of community.
>>> 
>>> * For those IETF participants (and staff) that normally stay in
>>> the IETF hotel, the sense of community is diminished.
>> 
>> While the old wording was confusing (at best), the new wording
>> appears contradictory.  Did you intend to say something else and
>> the above was a typo/ transcription error?    Perhaps a third way
>> to write it, closer to the second, might be something like:
>> 
>> 'When the meeting space is co-located with the IETF hotel,
>> the combination tends to build a strong sense of community
>> among those participants and staff who stay there.  That
>> sense is diminished when the hotel and conference facilities
>> are separated.'
>> 
>> That isn't very good either, but at least the point is more
>> obvious.
> 
> These are two separate points that appear at two different places
> in the text.  In their context they make sense.

Ok, as long as you believe that people will read the whole text
rather than skimming or skipping around in some way that would lead
to confusion (I think probably a reasonable assumption in this case).
thanks.
    john

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