John > On 4 Jul 2024, at 22:30, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > --On Thursday, July 4, 2024 13:34 +0100 Jay Daley > <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> ... >>> Does this really need to be mentioned as a disadvantage of meeting >>> spaces not co-located with a hotel, normally a convention centers? >>> Is this something that really resulted as rough consensus from the >>> discussions? What is 'a core group'? Are there other groups that >>> feel differently or do not care? >> >> Yes, those two points are better written as >> >> * For those IETF participants (and staff) that normally stay in the >> IETF hotel, there is a strong sense of community. >> >> * For those IETF participants (and staff) that normally stay in the >> IETF hotel, the sense of community is diminished. > > While the old wording was confusing (at best), the new wording > appears contradictory. Did you intend to say something else and the > above was a typo/ transcription error? Perhaps a third way to > write it, closer to the second, might be something like: > > 'When the meeting space is co-located with the IETF hotel, > the combination tends to build a strong sense of community > among those participants and staff who stay there. That > sense is diminished when the hotel and conference facilities > are separated.' > > That isn't very good either, but at least the point is more obvious. These are two separate points that appear at two different places in the text. In their context they make sense. Jay > > thanks, > john > -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director exec-director@xxxxxxxx -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx