On 17-Jul-23 01:28, Joel Halpern wrote:
Agreed. Design team decisions, of any kind of design team, are input to
the working group, not something the working group is required to adopt,
accept, or use.
And stating what I hope is obvious, the IPR rules apply completely to
design teams (BCP79, in its definition of "contribution", covers
"any statement made within the context of an IETF activity").
Brian
Yours,
Joel
On 7/16/2023 9:26 AM, Keith Moore wrote:
On 7/16/23 09:06, Joel Halpern wrote:
IETF procedures explicitly allow for open and closed dsign teams.
They also allow for self-formed teasm and teams appointed by WG
chairs. There is very little procedural requirement on them.
Presumably, since the work is intended to be contribution to the
IETF, the Note Well applies to design teams.
IN my experience, closed design teams formed for a specific purpose
tend to work better than the alternatives. But different WGs and
different problems prompt different approaches.
While IETF does permit closed design teams, a danger of closed design
teams is that they can, in practice, be used to coerce the WG into
accepting poor decisions.
Decisions made by a design team still require rough consensus from the
mailing list. If the group is told by someone in authority (say the
WG chair or document editor) that the design team's decisions are not
negotiable or subject to revision, that's IMO a process violation.
Keith
