ty. den 04. 10. 2022 klokka 09.00 (+1300) skreiv Brian E Carpenter: > On 04-Oct-22 08:04, Toerless Eckert wrote: > ... > > - There is no clear explicit list of what is in evidence, instead we are asked to find that > > evidence ourselves from long mailing lists, not knowing how far back judgements where made. > > Huh? The Last Call messages includes an explicit list of example messages, which in my opinion are sufficient on their own. In that case I will submit an emphatic "no support" to the motion. I have read these messages, as well as refreshing on the entirety of the thread on "IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language". Nadim Kobeissi summed it up well in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/XKikRaujzMZw7-tkz7WnQHbB2mk/ His concluding remark from that message > This entire topic is harmful to the IETF’s collective psychology and > its ability to collaborate. The IESG should follow its mandate and > stop sowing discord among IETF members with these unnecessary, > tribalistic and mentally troubled topics. This discussion as a whole > has been nothing but a net harm to the IETF, and is causing > quantifiable damage to the ability of its members to work together to > produce a more performant, secure and indeed inclusive Internet. This BCP is just one more step towards this splintering. -- venleg helsing, Kjetil T. -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call