On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 07:21:26AM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: > > Until encrypted email is usable (**search**, long-term signature validation, > > personal private key rollover, ...), all the key distribution tech in the > > world won't make it worth adopting. > > I wouldn't call such email entirely unusable, but clearly a system is > more usable (for some meaning of "usable") if encrypted emails can be > searched and signed emails can be verified long after such emails are > received. > > I could take a stab at these problem and say that a message can be > decrypted and/or its signature verified when read (assuming of course > that the message is read a short time after it is sent, when the signing > keys and associated certs are still valid), and save their own signature > for the message ("message X was verified to be signed by Y by MUA Z on > <date>". That's still nowhere nearly perfect, e.g. it might not hold > up in court as evidence that the sender of the message did or did not > say something. But it's probably good enough for the recipient, for > most purposes, and still better than the situation we have today where > we have no widespread encryption or signing for emails. > > (I think in that case the problem devolves to that of long term key > storage for the recipient, which is admittedly a difficult problem by > itself.) I am not claiming that solving the UX problems is profoundly difficult, indeed a number of design choices can make significant progress, *but* no MUA I know of presently offers anything remotely close. More fundamentally, I don't see any likehood of substantial effort to improve extant MUAs. For example, Apple keep chipping away at *removing* features from Mail.app: * one can no longer compose S/MIME messages, they can only be read * one can no longer subscribe to just a subset IMAP folders * ... Who's going to do the work? -- Viktor.