If you're serious about this list, then I would change all of the "w/ discussion" to "w/ discussion and improvement". :)
Tony
On 2/28/2022, 11:37 AM, "rfc-interest on behalf of Joel M. Halpern" <rfc-interest-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Joe, in all cases I know of when the WG chairs push the button to send a
document to the IESG, what this causes is a review by the responsible
AD. In many cases, the AD has questions he would like answers to before
he pushes the button causing the IETF LC. Given that this is the
typical case, I would expect to include it.
Yours,
Joel
On 2/28/2022 11:21 AM, touch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi, Joel,
>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> I would have thought that the primary thread that would be useful to
>> be shown for a draft is:
>>
>> Individual draft
>> discussion and improvement
>> WG adoption (no details, just that it usually occurs)
>> discussion and improvement
>> WG Last Call w/ discussion
>> AD Review w/ discussion
>> IETF Last Call w/ discussion
>> IESG Approval w/ discussion
>> editing
>> Publication
>
> What’s the difference between AD review and the IESG step (isn’t that
> Review with discussion)?
> I.e, why not:
>
> Individual draft
> discussion and improvement
> WG adoption (no details, just that it usually occurs)
> discussion and improvement
> WG Last Call w/ discussion
> *// remove: //* AD Review w/ discussion
> IETF Last Call w/ discussion
> IESG *//Review, changed from: Approval // *w/ discussion
> editing
> Publication
>
>
>> With some notation somewhere that advancement along that sequence is
>> not guaranteed.
>
> As a flowchart, it’s not just that things can fail to advance, but at
> any point a doc can also be abandoned (i.e., exit the process).
>
> But those steps are often easier to indicate as a note, rather than arcs
> everywhere.
>
> Joe
>
>
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