FWIW, yes, I was addressing the same list Joel was, i.e., the abbreviations that are allowed to be used without (local) expansion. The rest, IMO, is little more than a way to avoid conflicting abbreviations within the IETF. best, john --On Sunday, July 26, 2020 00:55 -0400 "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It may be that we are discussing two different things. > I am not concerned with what abbreviations appear in the > "these are abbreviations commonly used in the IETF" list. I > am concernwed with the subset of that list marked with a *, > meaning that they usually do not require expansion. Of the > three examples you cite, two are marked with a *, the third > (RSASSA-PSS) is not so marked. > > If the question is how things get into the list at all, that > is one question, and not something we have to be particularly > limited about. > My reading of other notes was that the question was things > marked with a "*".