Re: USA dominion: Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:27:00AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Toerless,
> 
> as a fellow with a German background, let me just say this:
> 
> It???s their language.

Well, we do use US english, true, but we are talking about technical terms.
I think we have a lot of freedom as a communty to decide what to pick and how.

> We are witnessing a change in what is polite to say in English.

That was very politely said!

[...]

> It also would *never* have occurred to a German to call a technical concept a ???slave??? (**), or to ???kill??? processes (***), etc., so the German speaker in me is not too unhappy if some of those horrible usages finally get fixed.

Sure, anything that helps readability is great IMHO (first thing i wrote
in this thread). I have just a lot of concern about process especially
how this becomes a one-off for just the words in the draft that
started this.

For exmple i have to observe a real bad execution on evolving the
RFC abbreviations list, and every time i pointed to problems,
they where not fixed, and ADs did not bother to pick up the problem.

Cheers
    Toerless
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
> 
> (*) I don???t think anybody is suggesting to lead it, although I may simply have ignored those who do.
> (**) the German equivalents of ???master??? are mostly innocuous, including great ones like ???Herrchen??? and the analogous ???Frauchen??? (of an animal).  We also have completely non-charged variants, such as ???Meister???.  So the German in me doesn???t understand the urge to replace ???master???, but then again, it???s their language.
> (***) insert account of IBM???s somewhat comical choice to replace ???kill??? by ???force??? in CP/CMS.

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