A few points in summary: - nobody has proposed a penalty for using these terms the typical RFC document review and editing process already allows for flexibility in many ways - nobody has set restrictions on who can participate including the need for a ‘license’ for having participated in these issues elsewhere - although our target is RFCs, every bit helps when trying to address these sorts of biases this isn’t about raising awareness; it’s about avoiding marginalization - nobody has asserted that these terms are being used deliberately or maliciously the point is to be aware of their impact - everyone is free to raise dimensions of this issue that they believe should be included I raised ageism, sexism, genderism, nationalism, etc., in addition to racism - yes, the IETF routinely works on technologies that impact sociological issues that’s what the security considerations sections are often about, including (but not limited to) privacy preservation but that isn’t the purpose of this doc. ... The point of this thread is that we should DO something; not merely document or talk about it. Joe |