> On Jul 24, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Joe, *: > > Here is how i think this whole effort is exclusionary: > > For the mayority of writers and even more so readers of IETF documents, > english is not the first language. Even for any non-american native english > speaker, i wonder how much they feel that there is a need to update the language > used by the IETF for what arguably is primarily a US social problem: Dealing with > a still seemingly not well enough handled history of afro-american racism and slavery. I tried to point out in my examples that this goes far beyond a US problem or the specific problem of slavery. It might also be useful to keep in mind that slavery had existed for thousands of years before there ever was a US. Yes, because we write our docs in English, many terms are particular to the English language, but not just US-English either. If the worldwide community thinks that being respectful of others is a bad thing, then so be it. Joe