--On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 00:12 -0400 Michael StJohns <mstjohns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > To put some real numbers behind this I grabbed the list, and > did some consolidation and sorting. There were basically > only a few companies where I ended up merging things: > Anything with "Huawei" in the name was Huawei. (Huawei, > Huawei Technologies, Huawei Tech Dusseldorf, Beijing Huawei, > Ditto for Google (Chrome, Jigsaw). The remainder of the list > were slight variants (Cisco vs Cisco Systems, etc) and easy to > merge. I wasn't sure of whether Futurewei should be grouped > with Huawei, so I did the calculations both ways. > > Taking only the groups with 3 or more volunteers you get: > > Cisco - 13 - 8.1% of the pool - 24.2% chance of having 1, > 65.6% of 2 > Ericsson - 6 - 3.8% of the pool 37.5/26.9 > Futurewei - 10 - 6.3% of pool 31.5/51.5 > Google - 4 2.5% 34.9/14.6 > Huawei - 28 17.5% 3.2/95.9 > Juniper - 10 6.3% 31.5/51.5 > Mozilla - 3 1.9%, 30.9, 9.1 > Nokia - 3 1.9% 30.9/9.1 > ZTE - 6 - 3.8% 37.5/26.9 > > (Huawei + Future Wei ) 23.8% .6/95.6 > > Using the current model, Huawei with 17.5% of the pool has > only a (100 - 95.9 - 3.2) .6% chance of having no volunteers > selected, a 3.2% chance of having 1, and a 95.9% chance of > having 2. If Futurewei and Huawei are counted as separate > companies, together they have about a 50% chance of having 4 > members between them (estimate rather than doing the > calculations). >... Mike, I have read through the above several times, and can't figure out how, if some organization has a likelihood of having one person selected, say NN%, that they can have a higher likelihood, MM%, MM > NN of having two (or more, but that would be restricted by the current rules) selected. Moreover, even if I do sampling without replacement such as the first person selected for that company reduces the size of the pool, I can't come up with a model that makes MM > NN for some companies but MM < NN for others. Am I missing something about either how you are reporting the results of your calculations or the calculations themselves? thanks, john