On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 23:24 -0600, Jerry Amundson wrote: > > A screwed up, hung, console wrecks my plan for Linux World Domination. > And no-one can deny that the X tools have the same basic goal. > Usability, even for technical tasks. Regardless of how the X is recovered, once hung, the damage is done. We need to work on not having a hang, rather than squabbling about how to recover from the hang. > > The alternate VT, kill, restart, is more work for me. > The X -config, change zap setting, is more work for me. > The server reboot looks bad to everyone. > If my employer sees me working more, they buy less Linux - the Windows > servers are faster to administer in their eyes. The laughing started when you were using X directly on the server machine to configure it. Why? That's why X is network aware and graphical tools are easily reached either through exported X connection (ssh). Aside from VNC, there is no need for X itself to run on your server, so any kind of graphical glitch would be on the client side, and a reboot there isn't nearly as laughable as rebooting the server itself and causing downtime. Of course, configuration changes shouldn't be done without scheduled downtime anyway, even if it doesn't get used. Trying to argue that one can't easily reset the X server on a running server will cause Linux to fall out of favor in the data center is laughable at best. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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