On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:35 PM, John Summerfield <debian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Because X too is essential for many things I do, especially when RH > configuration tools are involved. I agree. All the more reason for the Redhat/Fedora powers-that-be to pay attention, and to listen to it's user base. And yet, instead we get this... On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The above admin should take the argument to the upstream of the > software. How unhelpful. Knowing full well the topic has been discussed ad nauseam upstream, we're pointed back there anyway. I'm a command-line guy, born and raised, so I look at it this way: I install X and the ensuing RH tools for one reason - The hope that, someday, Linux servers will rule my computer room, and everyone else's. Then, I point my Windows-centric co-workers to a graphical console, and, from my chair on the beach sipping mai-tai's, talk them through fairly "technical" changes on the servers. A screwed up, hung, console wrecks my plan for Linux World Domination. And no-one can deny that the X tools have the same basic goal. Usability, even for technical tasks. The alternate VT, kill, restart, is more work for me. The X -config, change zap setting, is more work for me. The server reboot looks bad to everyone. If my employer sees me working more, they buy less Linux - the Windows servers are faster to administer in their eyes. Anybody listening now? jerry -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list