On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 13:06 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On 11/09/2012 12:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 11/09/2012 07:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > >> <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> On 11/09/2012 07:14 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >>>> Smolt is also being retired: > >>>> > >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Smolt_retirement > >>>> > >>>> The stats also have not been updated in quite a while. > >>>> > >>>> I'd take any data from smolt with a block of salt. > >>> > >>> Well those numbers show clear dominance in vbox and vmware on the > >>> virtualzation field amongs those users that reported their smolt > >>> data so I > >>> dont think we can ignore those numbers just like that. > >> Yes we can. We don't support VMWare or VBox. We can ignore anything we > >> don't support as much as we want. > > > > Yet we have criteria is specifically tailored at dual booting along > > proprietary operating system on proprietary filesystem ( thus arguably > > support it ) which can block our own release if not fulfilled. > > > > What's your take on that since you are so opposed to us adding a > > criteria that cover vbox,vmware which atleast arguably is equally > > being used among our userbase? > Sticking strictly to the statistics point - I tend to agree at least on > Vbox - esp. for all the people who do dev-type work on macs, etc. > > VMware is a bit harder to see - obviously they're the huge elephant in > the virt space but I would tend to think that people using KVM or Xen > would be more likely to use Fedora/care about open source and that we'd > get more value out of testing for that scenario than VMWare. But if the > (albeit old) stats reflect otherwise it might be worth considering, > though the ability to actually test that way isn't cheap and i fear that > we'd have pretty low participation in it. I think the 'old' thing is pretty significant here; for quite a while VMware was about the _only_ viable virt option. I certainly used VMware-player for quite a long time just because there wasn't anything else. I think it's certainly plausible that the smolt stats have a heavy skew to VMware based on the time ranges they cover and don't cover. It would be nice if we had better numbers, but lots of things would be nice :/ -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test