"Upgrade" installation is a bizarre beast, because the result is not well defined. Yes, a newer set of packages is installed, but a new install does that. The reason "upgrade" is so seductive is the notion all one's configuration and personalization is carried into the upgraded system, whereas a new installation loses that. If the only personalization is creation of one userid, that's pretty easy and separate /home makes it even easier. On the other hand, a system with multiple users, complex firewall, e-mail, DHCP server, print, udev, or other configurations (e.g. the whole /etc/alternatives structure) is problematic. The old files preserved by an "upgrade" installation may not mean what they used to mean... new data or different formats may be needed, there may even be a new component that replaced what used to be configured, and this new component uses completely different data. Think "rpmnew" on steroids. The sheer number of possibilities and possible effects makes "supported" a lie (in the sense a user would like it to mean). The change to systemd is a fine example, where a user would like "supported" to mean his initscripts, upstart, or whatever is magically converted to systemd formats that do exactly what used to be done. Hah! In practical terms, upgrade installation "support" means: You'll get something that resembles what you used to have, but is different. If you do not notice any differences (except newer versions of packages), you are extremely lucky. If something brakes, you can either try to repair the pieces, or perform a new installation. You are welcome to report bugs, but if these cannot be reproduced in a new installation, it is likely they will be ignored ("not reproducible" or "won't fix", or simply languish until end-of-life). I remark that "upgrade installation is only supported from the prior release" simply means "upgrade from F14 to F15; update; upgrade from F15 to F16; update; upgrade from F16 to F17; update; ..." is the "supported" path. Well, that will increase the proportion of new installations; at least it is good in that respect. Personally, I am as susceptible to the lure of "upgrade" as most, even though I "know better." I have gotten away with upgrade installations, even through more than one release, but always something eventually breaks, and a new installation is the proper solution. I try now to put more effort into good configuration records, and tools to help me replicate configurations into new installations... and less into analysis of what went awry in the last upgrade. Intellectually, I understand "upgrade" is a snake in the grass, waiting to bite. Realistically, I expect soon to again think "Why not try an upgrade, and see if it works?" and take the (initially) easier road. Maybe someone with more fortitude (intellectual honesty? discipline?) than I will kill upgrade, and make the world a better place. Or at least document that "upgrade" is offered only on a "good effort" basis, with no guarantee or support. Meanwhile, it is like that old, threadbare and torn shirt, overdue for the dustbin, but "oh! so familiar and comfortable," that still hangs in my closet and is my first choice when something better is not required. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test