On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 04:17:39PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:49 -0400, Ed Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:46:03 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 11:47 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:15:01AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:44 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:34:20AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In general scientists do coding > > > > > > just fine but don't want to do more nor even think about it (no > > > > > > packaging, no thoughts on system administration...). > > > > > Well, in 90% of all such cases, "their coding" goes into > > > > > implementing complex algorithms, while their programs complexity > > > > > is not much different from "hello world". > > > > > > > > This sounds quite arrogant. > > > > > > Feel free to think what you want - These number cruncher guys apps > > > condense down to a > > > > > > READ STDIN > > > CALL ALGORITHM > > > PRINT STDOUT > > > > > > Their typical usage: > > > > > > ./myapp < inputdata >output > > > ... wait <couple of days> ... > > > lpr output > > > > > > Oh Ralf, you're such a sweetheart! Bursting with optimism about > > all of human-kind! :-) > > > > Yes, some scientists/engineers are dreadful coders and should never be > > allowed to admin any systems, not even small one-button toaster ovens. > > Some are brilliant coders and/or admins who develop novel algorithms/ > > approaches and build/manage their own clusters. Many fall somewhere > > between those two extremes. > > > > Your "condense down" comments are just silly. Really... silly... > > Thank you, very much - I must have been living on a different planet > than you for the last 15 years. From the way you describe the scientific community this seems quite possible. > I must have been watching a different kind of scientists, blocking > networks and machines with their number crunching jobs over all > these years ... Well ... the networks and machines are there for doing number crunching and not mp3, games, i18n and whatnot. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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