On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:15:01AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 09:44 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:34:20AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > > They use Linux/Unix because "somebody told them so", they program in > > > Fortran, Cobol, Algol or Modula, because "somebody told them so", they > > > do something "this way" because they don't know better and don't "want > > > to know better". > > > > That's a bit of oversimplification. > I've worked in such an environment for many years, I know what I am > talking about. > > An anecdote: I once met an EE-professor, who, when being asked why they > were using Fortran answered: "Because our simulations are based on the > Fortran punch cards I wrote during my PhD thesis 25 years ago". > Consequently, his students and employees were programming Fortran. > > > In general scientists do coding > > just fine but don't want to do more nor even think about it (no > > packaging, no thoughts on system administration...). > Well, in 90% of all such cases, "their coding" goes into implementing > complex algorithms, while their programs complexity is not much > different from "hello world". This sounds quite arrogant. > > However there > > are IT people working together with scientists who do system > > administration well. > > > Still the needs are specific and very different from other environments. > I can not disagree more. > > These guys relation to programming / sys-administration is not much > different from that of a 14-year old kid, whose IT skills are "browsing > the web, running games, playing mp3s and using word processors", when it > had a course in "programming in C" at school, and then starts to > discover the subtleties of programming afterwards. And in their spare time they invented the web including the first implementation of web servers and clients. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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