On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 09:08:51AM +1000, Jeff Fearn wrote: > On 18/02/16 08:42, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 08:27:43AM +1000, Jeff Fearn wrote: > >> The current system does not address scalibility issues, it's simply > >> insulated from them because it is a huge barrier to entry. If you could > >> somehow magic a lot more contributors using the current system you'd hit > >> the exact same gardening issues as content increased and fragmented. > >> i.e. If you get more contributors you will have to face these gardening > >> issues regardless of the technology you chose. > > > > Right, so, I think an important goal of the new system is to make that > > gardening easy -- and it just plain isn't with wikis. > > There are well gardened wikis, you have even named some, there are no > sites where gardening is easy. The primary hard parts of gardening, from my experience, are: * locating where it needs to be done * handling it as a repeatable, scalable routine to avoid backlog I am in 100% agreement with Ryan, Jeff, and Matthew (and maybe Pete I hope?) that short, focused content that addresses a specific user problem is key. I think that eases the second problem *somewhat* -- the shorter the doc, the easier it is to jump in and garden without it becoming a huge research project. Another part of solving the second problem is a system that alerts the team there is reviewing, checking, or editing to do on a change. However, none of these address the question of rot (which I think comes more from the first problem). Perhaps flagging an article by age so it's reviewed on a periodic basis helps. But much more important is the low barrier. I notice that both Pagure and Github have online editing of text files. Those generate pull requests back to the people who manage the project. Hmm... -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- docs mailing list docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx