On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:21 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 21:43 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > > No. PK groups are made up _from_ the comps groups. There are just an > > order of magnitude less options, and it's a flat list rather than a > > tree. Comps supports optional, mandatory, suggested and the sort of > > power user stuff that I just don't want to support in PackageKit. > > Well that's just too damn bad. You're making things /worse/ by having a > different view of things post-install than you had during install. This > was one of the /best/ things about pirut is that you got the same > familiar UI, whether that UI was good or bad didn't matter, it was > the /same/ and /consistent/. > > > > > For me to "clean up the groups" would be to rip out all optional groups, > > rip out most of the obscure categories and add lots of packages with > > lots of extra deps. I'm sure that's not what you want me to do with > > comps at all. > > Well it'd certainly be a starting point for a conversation, which is > much better than decisions being made about our distribution and what > our users see in our distribution discussed and made somewhere that > was /not/ our distribution. Hurting, not helping. > > > If you want to actually help with this stuff, can I suggest you join the > > PackageKit mailing list and discuss there? Fedora isn't the only > > consumer of PackageKit, and I'm keen on working upstream on ideas and > > policies with other distros rather than just defending decisions made > > upstream that affect fedora. > > If I'd known that upstream was actively looking to destroy our package > classifications, rather than actually work with us to clean them up a > bit maybe I would have joined the conversation. A heads up might have > been in order. I fear that any conversation now will just be too little > too late. > > > And just correcting you: this wasn't _my_ decision, this was the result > > of working with lots of other distros. Sarcasm doesn't help anybody. > > Neither does letting other distributions make decisions about ours. Thanks Jesse, for making it clear that you are more interested in confrontation than a constructive discussion impossible. People who are interested in improving PackageKit should probably take the discussion to the packagekit list (packagekit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
