On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 21:43 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > No. PK groups are made up _from_ the comps groups. There are just an > order of magnitude less options, and it's a flat list rather than a > tree. Comps supports optional, mandatory, suggested and the sort of > power user stuff that I just don't want to support in PackageKit. Well that's just too damn bad. You're making things /worse/ by having a different view of things post-install than you had during install. This was one of the /best/ things about pirut is that you got the same familiar UI, whether that UI was good or bad didn't matter, it was the /same/ and /consistent/. > > For me to "clean up the groups" would be to rip out all optional groups, > rip out most of the obscure categories and add lots of packages with > lots of extra deps. I'm sure that's not what you want me to do with > comps at all. Well it'd certainly be a starting point for a conversation, which is much better than decisions being made about our distribution and what our users see in our distribution discussed and made somewhere that was /not/ our distribution. Hurting, not helping. > If you want to actually help with this stuff, can I suggest you join the > PackageKit mailing list and discuss there? Fedora isn't the only > consumer of PackageKit, and I'm keen on working upstream on ideas and > policies with other distros rather than just defending decisions made > upstream that affect fedora. If I'd known that upstream was actively looking to destroy our package classifications, rather than actually work with us to clean them up a bit maybe I would have joined the conversation. A heads up might have been in order. I fear that any conversation now will just be too little too late. > And just correcting you: this wasn't _my_ decision, this was the result > of working with lots of other distros. Sarcasm doesn't help anybody. Neither does letting other distributions make decisions about ours. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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