Kevin Kofler wrote:
I can say that OpenNMS won't currently work with a 1.6 version because
it's developers have said so.
Then surely you should blame OpenNMS for not supporting the latest version of
Java! Java is almost completely backwards-compatible, they have really no
excuses for still shipping something which doesn't work with the 1.5-year-old
latest version.
If it's so easy, perhaps you could check out a copy and offer them the
fixes.
By the way, have you really tried it? My experience is that stuff often just
works with IcedTea even if they claim to only support 1.5.
No, and it's not a particular problem as far as opennms itself goes
because their yummable repository includes a working JVM.
I don't understand what that has to do with making it difficult to
install a compliant version.
s/compliant/obsolete/
I suppose I can accept that as a description of some happy future time.
Quit talking about "standards compliant" when what you really want is ancient
legacy crap. The certified 1.6 implementation from Sun won't run those programs
any better than OpenJDK does.
Yes, I realize this will all get fixed in several more years. But our
internal stuff just went to 1.5 last year and it took non-trivial
changes so I don't expect everyone else to rush either.
conversations here I thought someone said the relationship was
deliberately broken with portions moved into fedora packages and the
rest ignored.
Are you trying to fault Fedora for including what they can include?
Yes, both for shipping a non-conforming implementation which harms
everyone involved, and for not shipping something to fix up the package
dependencies and alternatives symlinks peculiar to fedora when a user
installs a conforming implementation.
> Obviously
they won't include the non-Free crap which is on JPackage, nor stuff which
non-Free dependencies. Some of the incompatibilities in packaging are also due
to JPackage hardcoding dependencies on non-Free crap into Free packages which
aren't really necessary and which Fedora patches out.
I can't parse any of that. The jpackage nosrc packages don't include
any non-free bits - they just adjust things for fedora oddness.
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