On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 07:42 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Alexander Boström wrote: > > tor 2008-03-13 klockan 09:41 -0500 skrev Toshio Kuratomi: > >> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > >>> Transliterate/translate them to ASCII. > >>> > >> This is a proposal I am strongly -1 to. > > > > Ok, then allow the full Unicode range in Name:. > > > > But a decision needs to be made. Should it be possible to do all command > > line system management with only knowledge of the basic latin character > > set? Or even: Should it be possible to do all command line system > > management with _no_ knowledge if the latin character set? No > (That would > > mean transliterating "yum" and "ls".) > > > > Probably the answers are "yes" and "uhm, perhaps if someone figures out > > how". > > > > Then the output of the command line tools (rpm -q, yum list, ls *.rpm > > etc.) needs to be such that everyone who can type the command can also > > manually copy the output from the screen to the keyboard. The command > > can of course show several names, at the same time or using different > > options. > > > I keep reading what you are asking here but have yet to find an > interpretation that I can think reasonable. So let me give you my > thoughts and then maybe we can meet in the middle. The questions: > > 1) Should the default command-line system administration commands use > filenames that are ASCII only? Depends on how you mean this question. * If you mean that all "default command-line tools" shall be named in ASCII, then the answer is more or less: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap03.html#tag_03_230 ... 3.230 Name In the shell command language, a word consisting solely of underscores, digits, and alphabetics from the portable character set. The first character of a name is not a digit. Note: The Portable Character Set is defined in detail in Portable Character Set. C.f.: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap06.html#tag_06_01 * If you are referring to "should all installation-tools" (rpm, yum, apt, etc.) be able to process utf-8 filenames, then my answer is: Implementation detail. Nothing blocks these tools from doing so. * If you are referring to "should all *rpm's" use ASCII file names, then my answer is: Yes. All rpm-filenames must use ASCII file names (rsp. from POSIX-portable charset), because only these are guaranteed to work everywhere. BTW: Also compare for Debian's policy on package names: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Package Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
