On 2007-10-31, 18:49 GMT, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I have suggested at least 2 technical solutions, none of which > needs any changes to Anaconda: May add one more possible solution: what about dropping Base X group from anaconda altogether and why not to treat it as a library, which is required by another components (do we have a group for glibc)? By reading the most of the previous messages (and there was a lot of them), it seems to me that actually nobody wants „Base X“ group for its own sake. Either there are people who want „Plain old X as seen in Project Athena many years ago“ (BTW, Project Athena @ MIT switched to Gnome as default) or some lightweight window manager (which one?). IMHO, the answer to the first request is that whoever wants it is such a weirdo, that he should be required to install appropriate packages just via yum (maybe with package xorg-x11-plain-old-environment or something) and doesn't deserve a place in anaconda. The other group is much more interesting. I really don't like a tendency of Fedora moving with its system requirements somewhere close to the one of Windows Vista (yes, we would have to fix anaconda first, but that's another issue, let's keep this X specific). It would be nice if people who are interested in this created some group of packages (with their own desktop manager? -- is there anything else than [gkx]dm?) so that we could fourth environment (even though this would be probably very virtual not consisting from packages originally intended to be part of one environment) besides Gnome, KDE, and XFCE. Are there any friends of WindowMaker around here (that would be nice for higher degree of compatibility with Mac OS X)? Or IceWM? On xdm theme -- if anybody is interested in this; well, xorg-x11-xdm src.rpm is 400k -- it shouldn't be unfathomable for interested geek to fix it and maintain it (and I would be glad to meet you, because xdm bugs in bugzilla are always for me, desktop team bugmaster, kind of nightmare). What do you think? Matěj -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list