On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:28 PM Tomasz Torcz <tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 01:21:16PM +0100, Peter Boy Uni wrote: > > > Indeed. In f42 all older jdks 17-8 will be gone. Until EOL of f41, I will do my best to keep it alive. If you will move to Temurins in meantime (the repository is already available) better for everybody I think. > > > > I guess, that’s really a bad decision. > > > > Currently, Jakarta EE 10 - a core part of the Java universe – is the current release (unless I missed the final EE 11 release announcement) and is specified for Java SE 11 & 17. And we are going to remove just these versions in F42? > > > > And Wildfly – part of our own software family – says "You need Java (at least version 11, and preferably 17) and Maven installed on your machine …“ [1] (Link prominently on the landing page). And we are going to remove just these versions in F42? > > > > That seems pretty crazy to me. > > > > And wouldn't it perhaps make sense to ask our users beforehand or at least analyze the downloads to see what the actual demand is? > > Regardless of user needs, the problem here is lack of maintainership resources. If nobody steps up > to maintain old versions of Java, no amount of "user requests" are gonna > keep those packages viable. > > > Nb. I'm partly affected, as I run my home automation on an old OpenHAB1, > requiring Java 1.8.0. I did not have time to port my configuration to > newer openhab versions. One of the things we've been working on is to ensure that the Temurin RPM is compatible with the older OpenJDK RPM. There may still be some rough edges, but we are addressing them as we find them. I'm sure the Temurin folks would benefit from some of this real world experience. Of course, the safest way would be to migrate to the latest version when possible so you don't risk that things go out of existence, but at least this is a viable path, we are well aware of that which is why we are investing time into making things compatible. Cheers, Mario -- Mario Torre Manager, Software Engineering, Red Hat OpenJDK, Java Champion https://keybase.io/neugens 9704 A60C B4BE A8B8 0F30 9205 5D7E 4952 3F65 7898 Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@MarioTorre Red Hat GmbH, Registered seat: Werner von Siemens Ring 12, D-85630 Grasbrunn, Germany Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen/Munich, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Ryan Barnhart, Charles Cachera, Michael O'Neill, Amy Ross -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
