On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 13:58, Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Once upon a time, Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > For myself, I think it's reasonable to conclude there's a non-trivial > > amount of people using QEMU on that hardware in some fashion. Much of > > that is probably from podman as opposed to running large virtualized > > environments at this point, but the podman use case is important for a > > lot of people. > > Without knowing which CPU models are actually affected, I don't think > it's reasonable to draw any conclusions. > > For personal anecdote: my oldest system I still use for anything is a > 7-year-old Intel NUC (i5-7260U), and it's actually v3. My lowest-end > system is a router (not running Fedora); it's a Pentium N6005 and > appears to be v2 (it doesn't use glibc, but I found an awk script that > seems to report it). > > So yeah, it may be time to say "okay, we can't run QEMU on the old > systems anymore". If upstream QEMU is going to make their software v2+ > only, that's really the only reasonable conclusion; it is not reasonable > to demand Fedora packagers maintain a patchset or a fork to revert that > change. > > But again, knowing what CPU models are what level would bring more > clarity to the effect. I don't know how to look at say Intel Ark (does > AMD have a similar site?) and determine "this CPU is v3". IIRC when the > baseline came up before, the only current or recent CPUs that weren't > v2+ were some Intel Atoms. I've looked at a few Atom, Apollo Lake, and they're v2 (I have a couple of others to boot to check), most Atom are not v3. I have an AMD platform (AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor) that is v1, but it's certainly not something I run virt on any longer. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
