I don't really want to get involved in this discussion. I don't use KDE, I don't even use Fedora Desktop anymore. But there is one argument resp. strategy that triggers me: > Am 07.02.2024 um 10:44 schrieb Michel Lind <salimma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > - KDE SIG likely also want people to test Wayland, so defaulting to the > X11 packages being removed makes sense here If KDE Sig wants to attract users to Wayland, then the only good strategy is to make Wayland better than the previous way (i.e. Xorg) and promote that fact actively. Then people will be motivated to switch by themselves. Simply banning or deleting something will only alienate people and they will switch in frustration to another alternative, i.e. distribution in our case. This is a simple fact that can be found in all behavioral and political sciences. Unfortunately, some Fedora maintainers seem to take their cue from the missionaries and conquistadors of the 16th and 17th centuries and try fire and sword and coercion. A bad strategy in a free world. If I remember Matthew's Fedora status report on Flock last year correctly, the download and user numbers of Fedora Desktop are/were declining. Perhaps this is another reason to think about appropriate strategies. -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue