Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > The approved KDE change > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDE_Plasma_6 indicates the intent > for existing Plasma X11 installs to switch to Wayland during the upgrade > process. > > There's no perfect answer as some users will be happy to switch to > Wayland, while others will not, while perhaps more will not even be aware > of anything changing. > > IMHO if the KDE Sig wants the upgrade path to take users from X11 to > Wayland automatically, then the criteria for allowing back in RPMs > with X11 builds should include "no interference with the X11->Wayland > upgrade path determined by the KDE Sig". > > The BZ ticket indicates that there was some testing to show that is not > causing a problem with the upgrades, so it might be a non-issue, but > setting clear expectations in this respect would be a good idea anyway. As I wrote (and confirmed by testing) in the BZ ticket, the packages as submitted already do not interfere with the X11->Wayland upgrade path determined by the KDE Sig, and I do not intend changing that. (Adding versioned self-Obsoletes could possibly theoretically achieve that, but that is a game I do not intend to play. The only thing I care about, which is why I bumped that Epoch, is that the upgrade Obsoletes is applied only ONCE on the upgrade to Fedora 40 and not on routine updates in Fedora 40 or on upgrades from Fedora 40 to later releases, because anybody who still/again has the -x11 packages on Fedora 40 has explicitly opted in and should not have to opt in repeatedly.) While (as also stated in the BZ ticket) I disagree that it is helpful to forcefully remove the -x11 packages on the upgrade to F40, my packages do not and will not interfere with that process. If you want to explicitly encode this in the proposal, I am OK with that, but then it should also explicitly say that further updates/upgrades should not obsolete my packages (i.e., that the KDE SIG is not allowed to bump the Epoch of their Obsoletes – I really do not want to get into an Epoch war about that Obsoletes and I hope the KDE SIG does not want that either). Kevin Kofler -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue