On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:28 PM Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > My point is only partly about the HTML, but about the ecosystem surrounding it (CI is a really big one) but really the total user experience (account system, uptime, moving issues), etc. > > The bigger point I want to make here is that one of the roles of Fedora obviously is to be an upstream for RHEL. To state the blindingly obvious thing, RHEL made a decision to centralize on Gitlab. Having Fedora be on pagure creates IMO unnecessary friction for me. I would be quite curious to get some sort of survey of other engineers for how they feel. I'm sure there's some that disagree with me, to be clear - at least one already responded. > Fedora is also the upstream to Amazon Linux. It is (partly/indirectly) an upstream to other RPM distributions. If you're implying we (Fedora) need to follow what our downstreams do for development; process; and infrastructure decisions, then there's going to be a problem because RHEL is not the only one, nor is it even the most used one. I will also point out the last time we followed RHEL into something, we got the modularity system. That itself is an indicator that inverting the relationship for decision-making is a bad idea. Simply put, that is *not* how the relationship works when we want it to work well. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue