One thing I find amusing about this list (which like some others is kind of a long-running soap opera that happens to sometimes produce software as a side effect) is that many times, I can see just two bits of information: - The subject of the email - The name of the person responding And I basically *know* what they're going to say. Maybe one morning I'll be drinking my coffee, reading a thread like this that has "issues.redhat.com" in the Subject and see e.g. Kevin Kofler reply, open up the email and he'll say actually something like "JIRA is so awesome! I love the query language!"¹ and I'll just spew coffee all over my keyboard laughing in surprise. We could all chose to reply to threads we ordinarily wouldn't, in a different way - just to, you know, spice things up a bit. Keep the viewers^Hreaders entertained. (This is a point about the list overall and this thread somewhat specificially, but only partially your reply; I was *pretty sure* since you replied you'd be disagreeing. But honestly that's *mainly* because email doesn't have "thumbs up" style emoji reactions that would be useful in scenarios like this. Because sending an email that just says "+1" or "I agree" is a lot of noise/overhead...) On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Switch GitLab and Pagure in that statement and I could say the exact same thing. My point is only partly about the HTML, but about the ecosystem surrounding it (CI is a really big one) but really the total user experience (account system, uptime, moving issues), etc. The bigger point I want to make here is that one of the roles of Fedora obviously is to be an upstream for RHEL. To state the blindingly obvious thing, RHEL made a decision to centralize on Gitlab. Having Fedora be on pagure creates IMO unnecessary friction for me. I would be quite curious to get some sort of survey of other engineers for how they feel. I'm sure there's some that disagree with me, to be clear - at least one already responded. ¹ To be clear, I am also not a JIRA fan, but that's a mostly orthogonal debate... _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
