Hello, I'm not a Fedora Maintainer, or packager, or developer. I was involved more in marketing and more "people person"[1] stuff. I hope this can close this thread. This email has a specific goal, but it doesn't have a great title: For starters, SIG can't die, because they aren't alive. Also the goal was to announce that there aren't active members of @java-maint-sig, which is ok, sometimes stuff like that happens in a community driven project. The problem is all the unnecessary words, and unnecessary responses in it. On one side: Ok, no one is working towards the objective of the @java-maint-sig, maybe someone later will pick it up, or simply it will remain inactive, that's it. Some people are happy working more freely without a heavy well organized structure, and it looks like the Java SIG works this way. On the other side: No need to be happy about something you don't like. It's not working anymore. Some people need more formal structure and it looks like the@java-maint-sig was working this way. No need to interchange any word, no need to trash, minimize or insult the work of any of the SIGs. I don't like Java, neither the language, the way it works with the JVM and JDK and JRE, neither the company it came from; but it's been around for 25 years and it probably will continue for a long time; and people will come and go to maintain what they need to work with it. Just please acknowledge that the @java-maint-sig has no active members, and continue with your lifes. Hope everyone is ok. Best regards [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join#PeoplePerson -- Eduard Lucena Móvil: +56962318010 GNU/Linux User #589060 Ubuntu User #8749 Fedora Marketing Representative _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure