Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

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On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:08 PM Mat Booth <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:07, Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > We had a spirited and detailed discussion so far. But nevertheless,  I think we are none the wiser at the moment. We have many informative contributions to the discussion and analyses of the situation.
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> > However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java-maint-sig. What consequences do we draw from the analyses?
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> > Emmanuel Seyman has made some suggestions, about 16 posts back.  Thoughts on those? I posted on the java list some ideas some time ago ('Empowering Fedora Java’). Any comments on those?
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> Like many Open Source projects, Fedora is a "do-ocracy" -- those who
> step up to do the work win the responsibility of getting it done. If
> you have a clear goal in mind, just go for it.
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> As I said before there's always a lot of discussion from people who,
> in the end, never get involved. And then there are people who are
> quietly working away and Getting Things Done™ without the need for
> endless discussion. A good example is Nicolas De Amicis who recently
> stepped up to revive SWT because he really cares about openjfx in
> Fedora and SWT was a dependency. And that is awesome; it is the
> do-ocracy in action! Picking a goal you care about and setting about
> achieving it doesn't require a SIG, it requires you to "do."
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> So, do you have any specific, concrete goal you want to achieve? If
> the removal of a Java package has affected you directly or a Java
> application you care about is in danger of being removed that would be
> a excellent place to start.

I totally agree with Mat.

If you want to contribute, just do it. If you need help, feel free to
ask around.

--
Mikolaj Izdebski

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