We had a spirited and detailed discussion so far. But nevertheless, I think we are none the wiser at the moment. We have many informative contributions to the discussion and analyses of the situation. However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java-maint-sig. What consequences do we draw from the analyses? Emmanuel Seyman has made some suggestions, about 16 posts back. Thoughts on those? I posted on the java list some ideas some time ago ('Empowering Fedora Java’). Any comments on those? Peter _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure