On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 23:48, Emmanuel Seyman <emmanuel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * Peter Boy [29/09/2021 23:29] : > > > > Any ideas to get it started to fly? > > The first step should be to empty the group in FAS and remove its > bugzilla account from component ownership in Bugzilla (I happen > to think that this is not a good idea in general but it's even worse > when the group has no active members). > > The second step should be to document the current state of affairs > in the wiki along with the steps that someone would need to go through > to revive the group for another try. We could the point anyone who > wants to contribute to that page and get out of their way while they > fix things. > > As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised that the only commit on the Java > SIG's main wiki page in nearly 4 years is one that simply fixes a > spelling mistake. This doesn't jive with the amount of discussion we've > had on this list nor does it match the amount of work that people claim > to have done on the stack in recent times. > > I would encourage people who want to restart the SIG to reach out to > other distributions and enquire as to how they handle their Java stack. > While I'm as much into Fedora exceptionalism as any other packager, I'm > certain that other distributions have the same problems packaging Java > that we do. At worst, doing this would give us insight into how the > stack can be kept in working condition and, at best, we could gain > new contributers. > > On that topic, I've just read an interview of Nicolas Lécureuil, the > president of the Mageia board, in which he says that Mageia's Java stack > is based on Fedora's and that he interacts with Fedora's Java team > (leading me to wonder who exactly he is interacting with given Fabio's > description of the SIG's activity in the opening mail of this thread). > I've interacted with Java people from Mageia many times over the years. They periodically rebase their stack on Fedora's and have been pretty good at finding things that I didn't notice had stopped working such as bootstapping modes that we don't exercise very often for example. I've made a bunch of changes based on their reports and merged a bunch of changes from them too, so kudos to them. They've historically been active on #fedora-java IRC channel, so I'm sure I'm not the only one with such interactions. -- Mat Booth http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure