> Am 29.09.2021 um 13:57 schrieb Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx>: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 1:49 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 26. 09. 21 21:20, Fabio Valentini wrote: >>> Should the @java-maint-sig group be removed from any packages it is >>> still associated with? Should it be dissolved, and members be removed? >> ... >> > > Thanks for getting back to my original question :) > The points you outlined seem like a good plan. I would like to get back to the other part or your question: > I'd rather have the group start from zero now, and start *adding* > packages again that are actually really needed, wanted, and > maintained. How can we not only remove something not working, but also buildup something (hopefully) working? A few items to build upon emerge from this thread: - There are people who want to contribute but don’t find a starting point - Technically, there is a stable support for core packages providing a solid base to build upon - In terms of communication/information, there is uncertainty and missinformation - (Re-)structure the huge Fedora Java body into manageable areas (core, lib, apps) - Various ideas to streamline and simplify the building process - Guidelines (and maybe new tools or procedures) to install third party binaries (e.g. curated list of maven packages, Ansible Wildfly developed by Server WG) - Specifying a reliable core, and an application layer will build up By far the most important and urgent task is likely to be documentation / communication / transparency and to eliminate the misinformation, uncertainties and irritations that have arisen. That would probably be a prerequisite for everything else and followed by documentation and information for new maintainers / application packages. It would be really nice to have not only a ripping title and mourn the situation, but also a ripped action and energetic doing. Any ideas to get it started to fly? _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
