Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

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On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 00:23, Mat Booth <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 23:48, Emmanuel Seyman <emmanuel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > * Peter Boy [29/09/2021 23:29] :
> > >
> > > Any ideas to get it started to fly?
> >
> > The first step should be to empty the group in FAS and remove its
> > bugzilla account from component ownership in Bugzilla (I happen
> > to think that this is not a good idea in general but it's even worse
> > when the group has no active members).
> >
> > The second step should be to document the current state of affairs
> > in the wiki along with the steps that someone would need to go through
> > to revive the group for another try. We could the point anyone who
> > wants to contribute to that page and get out of their way while they
> > fix things.
> >
> > As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised that the only commit on the Java
> > SIG's main wiki page in nearly 4 years is one that simply fixes a
> > spelling mistake.  This doesn't jive with the amount of discussion we've
> > had on this list nor does it match the amount of work that people claim
> > to have done on the stack in recent times.

I kind of hate this assumption that work only happens when SIGs are active.

I've been maintaining Java packages here for more than a decade, and
have seen SIGs come and go. The dormancy or not of a formal SIG has no
bearing at all on the amount of care that I have tried to give our
packages. And when discussions of revitalising the SIG inevitiably
appear, there's a thousand opinions about it from people who (a) are
not involved in Java packaging and (b) end up never *becoming*
involved in Java packaging. It's hard not to be cynical about such
sentiments.
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