On Mer 8 juin 2005 8:41, condition terminal a écrit : > So ignore a potentional violation because someone else is planning to > do the same thing, but better? There is _no_ violation. If I had to guess 90% of the problems you have in reproducing Red Hat builds is because of non-deterministic parts of beehive like in what order packages where queued by humans on the server, what was considered "core packages" at one point in time, incorrect/incomplete spec dependencies. If you want a totally deterministic and reproduceable system contribute one I'm sure Red Hat will be delighted to use it (not because they have to legally, but because they'd be mad not to) In other words : if the current tools suck it's not intentional and having them public will not make them suck less. Especially since there is already a public rewrite going on because Red Hat engineers (which have seen beehive internals) declared it a dead end for Fedora Extras (at least). -- Nicolas Mailhot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list