On 6/2/21 5:28 AM, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > very nicely put. According to Matthew and others cloud wg did virtually not exist for more than a year, no meetings, silence on mailing list beyond bi-weekly announcement of a „standing“ meeting nobody attended to, there was discussion to „kill“ it, great reluctance on the side of Dusty in our meeting March 3 to make any changes on the artefacts at all, new start of 2-weekly meetings March 30, „months of conversation“ which spell down to 4 meetings in 2 months, and then such a very fundamental change. Well, the wording may be a bit offhand, but by no means farfetched. We typically run meetings every two weeks, but that did stop happening when I was away earlier this year. There is some truth in here though. It's very true that the cloud WG needs a leader. I'm mostly just trying to keep the lights on. I don't have significant amounts of time to put into it. When people show up with ideas and are willing to execute on them I try not to get in the way assuming the change isn't vastly fundamental. > > And lest there be any misconception, Cloud WG may decide what or about what they deem useful. That is not my business. But regarding the planned discussion about cooperation and alignment of server and Cloud WG and artifacts, I am "not amused" and can't really take it seriously anymore. There are more serious and urgent tasks waiting for us. Bear with me and try to assume good faith. When this was first brought up in the cloud WG meeting recently I did ask of the implications on our pending talks to merge with Server. I thought it had been discussed in the Server WG first. https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_cloud_meeting/fedora_cloud_meeting.2021-05-11-15.58.log.txt 16:18:15 <dustymabe> There is also the discussion of merging with the server WG - if we change to BTRFS does that inhibit that potential path for us (i.e. should we get server to buy in on the FS change too, or maybe they have already)? But.. at the end of the day I'm mostly just trying to do the best I can with limited time. Maybe we can get everyone together to discuss all the various options and the best path forward? Dusty _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
