Hello everyone, As of Python 3.8, python C extensions modules should not link to libpython, unless they embed the interpreter in their code. Relevant upstream PR: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/12946 If your package links to libpython without requiring it, it won't be possible to use the python3-debug binary with your python C extension, unless you recompile the extension against it. On Fedora Rawhide, there are at this point 144 packages linking to libpython, many of those possibly without any need for it. If your package links to libpython but it does not embed the interpreter, I would like to ask you to unlink it. Usually the fix needs to be done at the package's build system. If you are not sure if your package links to libpython, a way to figure this out is to inspect the code for the Py_Initialize and the Py_Finalize calls [0]. If the code includes those calls, no action is required from your side. If it does not, linking to libpython is not required. I might mass file bugzillas at a later date, but I wanted to provide you the heads up before that. [0] https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/init.html#initializing-and-finalizing-the-interpreter List of possibly affected packages, provided through $ repoquery --repo=rawhide --source --whatrequires 'libpython3.8.so.1.0()(64bit)' Maintainers by package: COPASI sagitter HepMC3 ellert Io-language limb OpenImageIO hobbes1069 PyQt4 rdieter than YafaRay luya roma slaanesh apbs rathann sagitter babeltrace2 mjeanson blender design-sw hobbes1069 ignatenkobrain kwizart luya roma s4504kr slaanesh boost denisarnaud jwakely calamares kkofler mattia calibre chkr heliocastro kevin nushio zbyszek cantor jreznik rdieter than ceph adeza branto dmick ke4qqq kkeithle ktdreyer steve stingray clingo thofmann collectd fab kevin mhlavink ruben xaeth condor bbockelm bcotton eerlands matt matyas stevetraylen tstclair ttheisen valtri createrepo_c dmach jrohel mblaha pkratoch tmlcoch csound pbrobinson sdz cvc4 brouhaha jjames dionaea rebus dmlite adev andreamanzi gbitzes okeeble rocha fontforge frixxon kevin pnemade freecad hobbes1069 jkastner zultron gdb jankratochvil keiths kevinb sergiodj gdcm ankursinha ignatenkobrain mrceresa sebp gdl orion getdp ignatenkobrain smani glade kalev globus-net-manager ellert glom hguemar gnucash notting gnuradio jskarvad mmahut gpaw marcindulak gplugin ignatenkobrain gr-air-modes jskarvad gr-fcdproplus jskarvad gr-hpsdr jskarvad gr-iqbal jskarvad gr-osmosdr cottsay jskarvad gr-rds jskarvad sharkcz hamlib hobbes1069 jskarvad lucilanga hexchat ohaessler tingping hokuyoaist rmattes hugin bpostle cicku denisarnaud insight lkundrak monnerat kdevelop-python dvratil jgrulich minh kernel-tools jcline jforbes jwboyer labbott pbrobinson kicad avigne coremodule lkundrak stevenfalco tnorth kig jreznik kkofler rdieter kitty atim krita heliocastro rdieter lammps ellio167 junghans ldns pemensik pwouters thozza libCombine sagitter libarcus churchyard gferon libarcus-lulzbot spot libbatch smani libcec pbrobinson libcomps akozumpl dmach jluza jmracek mblaha pkratoch libdnf dmach 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denisarnaud trellis lkundrak somlo unbound aegorenk akhaitov pavlix pemensik pwouters thozza upm pbrobinson uwsgi kad vapoursynth slaanesh vdr-epg-daemon martinkg vigra bpostle vim karsten zdohnal vrpn bizdelnick vtk jgu mrceresa orion weechat asrob gchamoul hguemar niveusluna stingray znc elyscape nb Packages by maintainer: aalvarez sourcextractor++ abbra libldb samba adev dmlite adeza ceph aegorenk unbound airlied lldb akhaitov unbound akozumpl libcomps alexpl scidavis amigadave libpeas andreamanzi dmlite ankursinha gdcm nest neuron python-graph-tool anoopcs samba asn libldb libtalloc pam_wrapper samba asrob weechat atim kitty avigne kicad balajig8 thunarx-python bbockelm condor bcotton condor bizdelnick vrpn bpostle hugin vigra branto ceph brouhaha cvc4 bruno qgis caolanm libreoffice cheeselee texworks chkr calibre churchyard libarcus libsavitar cicku hugin company pitivi coremodule kicad cottsay gr-osmosdr czanik syslog-ng daveisfera lldb deji mathgl paraview denisarnaud boost 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python-caja rdieter PyQt4 cantor kig krita python-qt5 rebus dionaea rjones nbdkit rmattes hokuyoaist rocha dmlite roma YafaRay blender ruben collectd s4504kr blender sagitter COPASI apbs libCombine libnuml libsbml libsedml paraview sbergmann libreoffice sdz csound sebp gdcm sergesanspaille lldb sergiodj gdb sgallagh libldb libtalloc sharkcz gr-rds scribus sigil siddharths lldb simo libldb libtalloc samba slaanesh YafaRay blender openvdb vapoursynth smani getdp libbatch libkml med netgen-mesher somlo nextpnr trellis spot libarcus-lulzbot steve ceph stevenfalco kicad stevetraylen condor stingray ceph weechat tachoknight swift-lang tgl postgresql than PyQt4 cantor python-qt5 thofmann clingo orocos-kdl thozza ldns unbound tingping hexchat tkorbar libyang tmlcoch createrepo_c librepo tnorth kicad tomspur pynac tpokorra libkolabxml libyui-bindings tripledes scribus tross qpid-dispatch tstclair condor tstellar lldb ttheisen condor valtri condor volter qgis wsato openscap wtaymans pitivi 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