-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 09:27 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 09:17, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > David Kaufmann wrote: > > > If abstentions would lower the necessary +1 votes, this would > > > automatically give the author of a proposal a +1 vote for the > > > proposal, > > > depending on the author being in FESCo himself/herself. > > > > It would actually give them only half a vote. Whether a single half > > vote > > amounts to a whole vote depends on how ties are handled. > > How about making this simpler: plurality wins > > If the plurality is +1, then it passes > If the plurality is +0, then it goes to more discussion (or drop > because people are tired). > If the plurality is -1 then it fails > If there is a tie, it goes to more discussion. > > So a 4 +1, 5 0, 0 -1 means more discussion. > > Yes there will be corner cases, and ways to rig things.. there is no > system which is going to beat Arrow's theorem. We either deal with it > at the time or give up now because there is no perfect solution and > no > group of people are going to agree that there is a good solution > either. This will not happen because the policy says that if at least 3 people gave +1 and nobody gave -1, after 1 week it is approved exactly so that tickets are not being held in endless loops of discussions. So how is it different if it gets approved on a meeting with +4,±5,-0 or just waited for another few days and get auto-approved? This is the issue Stephen is proposing to solve. > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - -- Igor Raits <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcwgJ58gsbV5f5dMcEV1auJxcHh4FAl68A0wACgkQEV1auJxc Hh5tiA//VJTyAxBMH7KN/apEHjB7SGf4LDVMHkIOWUc8wHbSBEwafKa9e12Os963 WNh6Y0LJhn0wrkaq79w8bWnZKPftvne1EsKQtJGqU9LweL2NOHhdmTf85tnz/qJA 7qua++04Yhdr9BT2tnhh1IR1YlgFoGzb0WAu27nFiFXexshh98rgaSM6CFdc56c2 mDtFppSJHC5BxfRyVzFxFl93SloWdZ8zdrHdUJ9T0arDygIqUYg+eSv9sexp5bRI nsp85I0Qlo0lCcZO3/vWu7fO9cP4z7PA/9PNUcSb7Pz5Uf+koes38poZLz+95lYm 2iFngYxEZMNtCb9H1YCYTTQ9U3hyjx396BII8ieopK1rAQHBunY0NtHeSTnDZe+r K9y4cV6KI//OeQcVv6T26xdekgh1IJ2z2FZPemOpjNByBs1JZwPZXVq4PnXe0ZEK 4euOEwZlL7HbCw+iS1CC/s/cb2yG4luB1tYiuH0fgdggTVnVGqdIMhdsnBNBFyYj YbWvvV2xNZftK0dyq62ue8lppc+EcHBdS7b3wtTJBZaeLbwvGC8vBUr/sUHGGIgL uwrM8HhE71H9iWGQyQMZ6TdrOsb8vJIHlmHF8ReqcPnvXpCyjYpJCa0xAViINdUH vRPCX2QCeUS3mCcLpsh2bndrJIo2DwNGI9evZvCh+1M/vvx7RTk= =fmfA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx