On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:44:44PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > The rules you propose there lead to the ridiculous effect that people who > want to astain will instead actually leave the meeting […] Yes, true, that could happen. Thats a good thought. > The whole definition of an abstention or recusal is "my vote should not > matter". If we do not want to allow this kind of abstentions, then we need > to not allow abstentions at all and require people to vote -1 instead. > Recording a 0 and actually treating it exactly like a -1 does not make > sense. Having abstentions can still be used for signalling that in future the change could be ok - if it is interpreted as: 0 = Currently I can't say, that this should go through for $reason, -1 = This should not go through, and this will not change) If abstentions would lower the necessary +1 votes, this would automatically give the author of a proposal a +1 vote for the proposal, depending on the author being in FESCo himself/herself. I think finally it boils down to the question, if it should be a bar that should be reached / "at least x people are in favor" or if it should be a majority vote / "more people in favor than against" All the best, David
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